Maurice Jones, MUTEK.JP Artistic Director and critical AI researcher, talks to Chinese-Canadian multidisciplinary artist Sougwen Chung and Japanese innovator and artists Daito Manabe. Following Sougwen's live premiere of Flora Rearing Agricultural Network a day prior the conversation will see a joint exploration of approaches to human/non-human collaboration both conceptually and through artistic practices. This conversation will dive into the intersection of the organic and technological in human-machine assemblages, emergent intelligence in self-sustained systems, and the theoretical and practical implications of these on artistic practice and beyond.